Originally posted by Doodle:
Jul 10, 2010, 12:05am »
Jul 9, 2010, 10:50pm, daveg wrote:Hi doodle,
It is considered best practice to consult the
mot testing manual when the NT is either
confident in a fail criteria, or has an element
of doubt before making the final decision.
In your current case;
Introduction to the manual page 10 reads;
Road Testing.
The Statutory test does not specifically include
a road test of the vehicle. However, one is
permitted if the NT considers it necessary to
check the results of an inspection.
The NT must be qualifed to carry out the road
test. The NT must also ensure it is safe to
conduct the road test.
Testing Manual section - 6 - Body, Structure and
General Items
Method of Inspection 6.1.1
With the vehicle over a pit or a raised hoist,
check the vehicle structure for any fracture,
damage or corrosion, not within the prescribed
areas, which is likely to effect prejudicially
the correct functioning of the braking system or
the steering gear.
The reason for rejection reads;
Any deliberate modification, excesive corrosion,
damage, fracture or inadequate repair not within
a prescribed area which adversley effects
braking or steering by severely reducing the
strength or continuity of a main load bearing
structural member.
In my opinion after a road test and operating
the steering and braking I would have based my
decision on the results of the road test, but
again in my opinion if I felt the vehicle may
not be safe to drive, I would also be in my
right to ABANDON the test if I considered a road
test may have been dangerous to carry out, which
an NT would not know until the road test is
being carried out, hence Abandon test.
Dave
thanks for your opinion, but
Jul 9, 2010, 10:50pm, daveg wrote:
The reason for rejection reads;
Any deliberate modification, excesive corrosion,
damage, fracture or inadequate repair not within
a prescribed area which adversley effects
braking or steering by severely reducing the
strength or continuity of a main load bearing
structural member.
the damage is within a prescribed area (rear
spring mount)
I was looking at 2.4.2
www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s02000401.htm 2. Deliberate modification which significantly
reduces the original strength, excessive
corrosion, severe distortion, a fracture or an
inadequate repair of a load bearing member or its
supporting structure or supporting panelling
within 30cm of any sub-frame, spring or a
suspension component mounting, that is, within a
‘prescribed area’, see Appendix C
as of today, this (for me) is a mute point, the
vehicle is being repaired before we test it.
funny thing is this is the second time that
vehicle has been repaired for the same thing.
when it came in for it's 1st year service we found
the rear chassis bent out of shape (apparently if
they left the tail board down when they tiped the
body it would catch on the tow bar)
operator error or bad design, 50 50 of both I
think