Daveg
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Post by Daveg on Aug 10, 2012 22:19:34 GMT
Method of InspectionExamine the condition of all seat belt webbing for cuts and obvious signs of deterioration. Pay particular attention to the webbing around anchorages, buckles and loops. Reason for RejectionCut or damage sufficient to obstruct correct operation of the belt or significantly weaken the webbing. It's your call. Daveg Attachments:
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wally
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Post by wally on Aug 10, 2012 22:24:03 GMT
Fail
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phaetonott
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Post by phaetonott on Aug 10, 2012 22:29:40 GMT
MMMM Fail
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Post by spotty on Aug 11, 2012 6:47:00 GMT
Fail, it's significantly weakened in my view. It may also affect the operation of the retracting mechanism.
Did you know that seatbelts can stretch by around 9 inches during a collision, that'll give you an idea of the forces that they have to withstand. I advised one the other day that was twisted where it would go over the lap, that could cut into you quite hard in an accident.
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Post by David on Aug 11, 2012 8:26:13 GMT
fail
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Post by baz657 on Aug 11, 2012 13:58:51 GMT
Fail. I'm starting to wonder why we're all wrong this time
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Post by biggestgerbil on Aug 11, 2012 16:00:42 GMT
Fail. I'm starting to wonder why we're all wrong this time We're not wrong, it's a fail. Lets play with words... A seat belt "operates" when someone like me (over 300lbs) is still travelling at 30plus MPH when the vehicle around me has stopped. The seatbelt in the picture, and I think we could all agree, would probably not "correctly operate" under those circumstances. While under MOT test circumstances the aforementioned belt is harmless, and providing it recoils more or less correctly when released should pass?? I don't think so. BG
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kjb
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Post by kjb on Aug 11, 2012 16:34:33 GMT
Fail
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Post by drivewasher on Aug 11, 2012 17:38:11 GMT
When manual says "obstruct correct operation" I don't think it means will it hold a pudding like me in a crash. It means if the damaged portion gets stuck in any guides or clips.
The not restraining a pudding like me bit is "significntly weakes the webbing.
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Post by David on Aug 11, 2012 18:19:38 GMT
Fail. I'm starting to wonder why we're all wrong this time ha ha love it
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alex
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Post by alex on Aug 11, 2012 19:06:00 GMT
Fail,surely that's classed as seriously weakened
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Post by EcoTrans (Leicester) on Aug 12, 2012 7:13:48 GMT
...........and whilst we're waiting for the 'correct' (cough, cough) answer, what I don't understand is (and there's probably a very simple answer) why, in SRS systems, do some manufacterers fit pre-tensioners and others fit load-limiters? Is that a paradox
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phaetonott
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Post by phaetonott on Aug 12, 2012 8:13:33 GMT
Well Ecotrans
If the manufacturers can't make their minds up, what chance do we stand?
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Daveg
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Post by Daveg on Aug 12, 2012 14:20:38 GMT
Does any of you know whay you have failed it or is it a case of well one NT said fail so we all say fail so that we all fit it. Somebody tell me why its failed and give a good reason, not just a text book idea, or is that beyond you Daveg
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Post by EcoTrans (Leicester) on Aug 12, 2012 17:19:29 GMT
Think you might be confusing one or two of us here Daveg.
Didn't your original post GIVE the RFR....
"Cut or damage sufficient to obstruct correct operation of the belt or significantly weaken the webbing"
Some might have thought you just asked for "your call" as in pass or fail.
(you did, honest)
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Post by drivewasher on Aug 12, 2012 17:21:30 GMT
Not a txt book idea just the manual
5.2 2a cut or damaged sufficient to obstruct correct operation of the belt or significantly weaken the webbing
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nitros44
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Post by nitros44 on Aug 12, 2012 17:35:20 GMT
What i would be asking myself on inspection of the belt here is has the belt been significantly weakened to the extent that; Is the damage having or likely to have a Major effect on the strength of the belt and the other question would be is the damage enough to say its sufficient. Is it cut............NO Is it damaged,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,apart from a bit of fraying,,,,,,,,,,,,,NO In my opinion looking at the photo it does not meet either,however its very close to a fail but i would have to pass with a strong advise as long as the belt meets the standard with regards to the rest of the criteria.
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Post by biggestgerbil on Aug 12, 2012 17:54:48 GMT
Fried seat belt, Nitros? Mmmmmmm
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Post by westtime on Aug 12, 2012 18:29:50 GMT
on last refresher instructor said on this type damage to a belt pass and advise as long as it meets all other requirements
if the damage was lateral it is a fail
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nitros44
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Post by nitros44 on Aug 12, 2012 18:32:15 GMT
Fried seat belt, Nitros? Mmmmmmm Thanks bg, I will have to remind myself to use the spell check
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