Daveg
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Post by Daveg on Jul 14, 2012 20:08:08 GMT
This car failed its mot test for excessive corrosion within a seat belt mounting prescribed area by me . When the car returned for retest the photo you are looking at is the repair for the retest. Now I didn't photograph the inside floor panel which you will have to take my word for it, but yes it did have a plate completely seam welded to the floor inside as per VOSAs recommendations, where VOSA say that only a contineous seam weld is acceptable for mot welding repairs, and the patch must extend to a sound part of the vehicle structure, which inside the vehicle no doubt it did. I put the point across that the repair was inadequate, one of our worshop staff, none mot approved, well worse than that, been approved and kicked out years ago, but that is another story, anyway I said your patch is considered to be virtually as strong as original repair by VOSAs minimum standards, but I am sure if VOSAs assessed this they would reach the same conclusion as me, which is another fail. Anyone disagree Dave Attachments:
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alex
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Post by alex on Jul 14, 2012 20:12:29 GMT
That looks a bit Dubious to me dave it does,nt even look that strong :
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phaetonott
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Post by phaetonott on Jul 14, 2012 20:14:01 GMT
Beachball anyone?
No Dave, I think I would have failed it again.
Now spread it with black stuff and it would probably pass
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Post by aylesburyjock on Jul 14, 2012 20:16:12 GMT
I know I will hate myself for asking, but if the repair extended into good solid metal, and was continuously seam welded, why are you failing it again? It must be something not showing in the photo.
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Daveg
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Post by Daveg on Jul 14, 2012 20:19:47 GMT
Take a closer look Jock, it is definately looking at you the fail point Dave
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phaetonott
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Post by phaetonott on Jul 14, 2012 20:22:01 GMT
I'm failing it because I can see gaps and holes . I can't see a continuous weld, and if the carpets are in I wouldn't be able to.
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alex
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Post by alex on Jul 14, 2012 20:22:20 GMT
Is that beneath a seat at all it looks like it even after where it has Been welded from the inside it appears to have x2 more holes caused by corrosion extending past where it has been welded previously doesn't look good to me
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Post by aylesburyjock on Jul 14, 2012 20:24:00 GMT
Just been and got my other glasses (don't laugh, it's not funny) I apologise, I'm sorry I doubted you.
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Daveg
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Post by Daveg on Jul 14, 2012 20:25:50 GMT
You have just proved beyond doubt that you are like some of us ;D, getting old and require glasses ;D Dave
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Post by excessive on Jul 14, 2012 21:58:41 GMT
Agree with Alex, there are sections that have been missed by welding it from inside.
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Post by drivewasher on Jul 15, 2012 15:32:07 GMT
I agree it's a second fail! As it's NOT got new underseal/paint on the underside I would want to see the old stuff burned off by the inside car welding in a continuos bead around ALL the hole back on good metal. Maybe an attempt to "catch" the lip aswell.
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Post by nitros44 on Jul 17, 2012 0:02:18 GMT
When it comes to re-testing repairs such as welding its vitally important that the repair is done properly.Its not just a case of looking for a patch welded on as we all know, but the standard and quality of the repair has to be acceptable standard. Normally if i inspect a repair such as this,the chances are that the carpet would be put back in,so putting aside the issue that the weld has taken place inside and i can only inspect what i can see or feel. If its presented back for test i would be wanting to see a replacement or a repair,but to me all that can be seen is an attempt of a repair. I would be more inclined to fail it for excessive corrosion again,more then a inadequate repair. Not saying that's correct but either way its still another fail
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