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Post by Dave Hill on Nov 17, 2005 21:22:52 GMT
I am in the early stages of computerised testing & today I did my first full retest. My question is, how or were do I enter the fact that the vehicle I am testing is a retest & not just a first time test. I looked real hard for the place to put the retest option but could not find it. If we cant put in that its a retest then how can the pass/fail percentage be calculated? Dave Hill (awaiting ridicule)
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Steven
Nominated Tester
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Post by Steven on Nov 17, 2005 22:53:05 GMT
A Normal Test and a Full Retest are the same thing. Why the option isn't just listed as 'Full test', I dont' know!
As each vehicle will now have its own test record, there must be some sort of 'flag' to indicate the last test result.
ie If you failed the vehicle last week, the LastTestResult flag is marked as 'fail'. When the vehicle comes in a week later for the retest, the system will know that it is a retest because of the status of this LastTestResult flag. It could then mark another flag, ThisTestIsARetest flag for this test number. When it comes to calculating failure percentages, then if the ThisTestIsARetest flag is set, the result is not included in the calculations. The LastTestResult flag can then be set to Pass, Fail, Abort or Abandon as appropriate.
The above is just a draft idea as to how the system may work. Please don't think that I actually programmed it myself!
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daveh
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Post by daveh on Nov 18, 2005 22:38:07 GMT
Hi Dave, Are you the Site Manager for your garage, if so when you "Start" your computer every morning do you syncronise your card when you log on, if not, you should do. You will then recieve a message every day telling you how many Full tests, retests, Passes, Fails etc etc your garage has done. The system automatically knows that when you have failed a vehicle that the next time you register that vehicle for another test that it has to be a retest.
Regards Dave
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Post by Dave Hill on Nov 19, 2005 17:44:29 GMT
Dave & Steven
Thanks for that info. Dave I haven't been instructed to synchronise my card every morning. However the first person who logs on each day has to go through a starup routine. I am receiving a daily statistic message though. I see now that its the system that knows if its a first time pass or a retest.
I dropped a clanger today though, I logged on to register a car for test & after I had printed the check sheet, I got carried away with my success & forgot to click on the button to take me back to the start screen (I just pulled my card out). The result of this was that after completeing the test & I logged on to enter the results, the computer was back at the print check sheet screen. I had to print the sheet & go do something else four 40 minutes.
Dave Hill
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Post by hamvideo on Nov 19, 2005 19:07:51 GMT
Dave, if that happens again, just clic the abaondon box, screen goes back to main menu, you then clic enter "test results as normal". I'm sure we have all done this at some time or other, there is no need to print a second checklist or wait the customary time to do the test.
Henry.
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Post by hamvideo on Nov 19, 2005 19:12:40 GMT
Dave. I will now try and type with my fingers instead of a pound of sausages, the last reply should have read :- clic "enter test results" and not as mistyped.
Henry.
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daveh
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Post by daveh on Nov 19, 2005 19:53:47 GMT
One of my testers put the brake test results in wrong way round resulting in a failure when it should have passed...so we aborted the test, logged back in to register the vehicle for test, removed his card and put it straight back in and entered the correct test results, so in theory he did a 2 minute test. So the system does seem to know that if you make a mistake you can generally use common sense to correct it. Spoke to Siemens after and they said it was the correct decision to abort the test and start again.
Dave
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Roger
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Post by Roger on Nov 19, 2005 20:41:57 GMT
One of my testers put the brake test results in wrong way round resulting in a failure when it should have passed...so we aborted the test... I don't want to hijack this thread re: full/partial tests, but... Why didn't you just correct the brake results when you saw Failed written all over the Calculated Results page. Even if you got as far as the last page when entering the test result (only option = Fail) you could have popped back and made the necessary changes. R
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Post by Dave Hill on Nov 19, 2005 21:16:46 GMT
If Seimens & VOSA can c*ck up to the extent that they have, then I expect that they can cut us some slack. If not then they are welcome to have the keys to my place & see if they can do a better job.
Dave Hill
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Roger
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Post by Roger on Nov 19, 2005 22:08:18 GMT
Thanks for that info. Dave I haven't been instructed to synchronise my card every morning... I am receiving a daily statistic message though. You download new mesaages each time you do a task that connects to central services for example when you register a vehicle for test. Anyone who does not routinely do a task that connects to central services will need to sysnchronise at login to grab any messages (synchronising connects to central services and whilst doing so gets the messages). I dropped a clanger today though, I logged on to register a car for test & after I had printed the check sheet, I got carried away with my success & forgot to click on the button to take me back to the start screen (I just pulled my card out). The result of this was that after completeing the test & I logged on to enter the results, the computer was back at the print check sheet screen. I had to print the sheet & go do something else four 40 minutes. So just click Return to Menu and go and enter your test results. Not sure why you even needed to print another VT40. -- R
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