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Post by ukdave2002 on Dec 2, 2011 16:58:26 GMT
Hello all
I'm about to book the first MOT for my 1958 MGA, its a US import, that I have restored to a UK spec car. I believe an MOT is the 1st step in getting the car registered with the DVLA.
As the car won't be on the database, will this create a problem? I'm thinking specifically about lighting; white front indicators, flashing brake lights (shared stop and indicator bulb like the early morris minors), will the test station need evidence of the cars age?
Any advice welcome
Cheers
Dave
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Post by nitros44 on Dec 2, 2011 20:40:10 GMT
Hi Dave Proof of Approx date of 1st use will be required Don't worry about the database as when the tester logs on the computer with cars details it will trigger new record on the database. Front indicators are OK as its 1st use is before 1st sept 1965 Stop and indicator lamp incorporated together is OK*as long as its not dual function,,,, but brake lamp must show STEADY RED LIGHT and not affected by another lamp. Due to the age of the import you will only need one brake lamp either on or to the right(offside),such as an aftermarket one I have seen this before as a diy fix to the brakelamp/indicator issue welcome to the forum,
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Post by ukdave2002 on Dec 3, 2011 7:24:45 GMT
Hi Thanks for the quick reply I have the British Heritage Certificate that confirms the cars build date, hopfully that should suffice? RE the indicators; MG didn't fit a different system to cars that were exported; with the UK spec cars if you are indicating and braking at the same time, one stop lamp will be on and the other flashing, its a system that was used by MG, Morris, Ford and Hillman for UK cars in the mid 50's after they stopped using semaphore's. Is this an" original spec" acceptable pass? Cheers Dave
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Post by nitros44 on Dec 3, 2011 21:13:47 GMT
The British heritage certificate is evidence enough as it contains chassis numbers,build dates,this will help the tester as to what standards to apply I need to ask regards the brake lamp that is flashing,which side ? or both.individually.
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Post by ukdave2002 on Dec 4, 2011 11:40:21 GMT
Hi Its a shared stop and indicator bulb on both sides of the car, so there will be a static stop lamp on the side that is not indicating, and a flashing stop lamp on the side that is, set up is like the pic below.
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Post by nitros44 on Dec 4, 2011 18:02:52 GMT
Vehicles 1st used before1st September 1965 may have brake lamp Incorporated with an indicator lamp,or combined with side or rear lamps in which case front indicators may be white and rear indicators red
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Post by wingnut on Dec 4, 2011 19:58:40 GMT
Also traficators [semaphore type] can still be used legally in conjunction with flashers if the vehicle was manufactured as such.
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Post by Admin on Dec 4, 2011 21:25:07 GMT
Vehicles 1st used before1st September 1965 may have brake lamp Incorporated with an indicator lamp,or combined with side or rear lamps in which case front indicators may be white and rear indicators red Stop lamps can be incorporated in the same lens, but they must not flash: MoI 1.2.1.e & f 1. Apply the service brake and check that the correct number of stop lamps: e. emit a steady red light f. are not adversely affected by the operation of any other lamp. RfR 1.2.1.e & f 1. A stop lamp: e. shows other than a steady red light to the rear when any service brake is applied, or remains on when the service brake is released f. adversely affected by the operation of any other lamp, e.g. dual-function lamps on foreign vehicles.
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Post by nitros44 on Dec 4, 2011 22:58:17 GMT
1st used before 1st September 1965 it is acceptable to have a brake lamp incorporated with a direction indicator...section 1.2 information column, If this is a design feature and has not been altered to suit American road traffic laws i cant see the problem,
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Post by wally on Dec 4, 2011 23:18:21 GMT
Nitros44
Quote UKDave "Its a shared stop and indicator bulb on both sides of the car, so there will be a static stop lamp on the side that is not indicating, and a flashing stop lamp on the side that is
So you was correct on your post of Dec 2nd, I think Admin was just pointing that out to UKDave.
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Post by nitros44 on Dec 4, 2011 23:25:57 GMT
I read admins post to mean that the brake lamp flashing is a fail I think this is what he is getting at as the post starts off with regards the flashing I may be wrong
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Post by ukdave2002 on Dec 5, 2011 15:04:16 GMT
Hi
Many thanks for your replies.
I can confirm that this is the original design ; as used on all the UK and exported cars made between 1955 & 1959, ...so given it was first used before 1st Sept 65, do you think this set up ok?
Cheers
Dave
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Post by wingnut on Dec 5, 2011 18:00:09 GMT
I can confirm that this is the original design ; as used on all the UK and exported cars made between 1955 & 1959, ...so given it was first used before 1st Sept 65, do you think this set up ok?
Yes it will be fine,no problems with back to original set up for MOT.
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Post by ukdave2002 on Dec 11, 2011 17:46:41 GMT
Thanks for all the response's, glad I don't have to spoil the original lighting with an added lamp Again appreciate your time, and an interesting site Dave
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