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Post by Dave Hill on Dec 13, 2005 20:45:37 GMT
There are loads of scenario's of things that can happen during a test under computerisation. This is one of many questions that I am sure will be put forward.
If a tester logs onto the system to do a test & enters the vehicle registration, chassis, Class & fuel type. The boss comes in & says "No not that Vectra its the red one in the corner."
How do we escape out of that test without major inconvenience?
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Post by Steven on Dec 13, 2005 21:00:36 GMT
If a tester logs onto the system to do a test & enters the vehicle registration, chassis, Class & fuel type. The boss comes in & says "No not that Vectra its the red one in the corner." How do we escape out of that test without major inconvenience? I think the procedure is - The NT should complete the registration process and issue a VT40 checklist. Then at the main menu, select the 'Abandon test by NT'Select the 'Incorrect Vehicle Details Entered' option. A VT30 will be printed. The correct vehicle can now be registered. It may be helpful to make notes on the VT40 / VT30 to explain & keep in a file in case it is queried.
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Post by wingnut on Dec 14, 2005 11:49:25 GMT
Steven. Just a little worried at your reply at this scenario, i take it to mean that if the correct car for testing was not in the MOT parking area etc and the incorrect Vectra was. As the incorrect ones data was fed onto the VTD and a VT30 is issued to clear the system. What is going to happen to the owner driver if say his old style MOT is current for a year and a vt30 recorded on the VTD. If the NO plate reconition is in force, will he be pulled in by every camera and police patrol till a new type cert is issued.
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Post by spanner on Dec 14, 2005 12:29:05 GMT
Don't think so wingnut - you click on Incorrect vehicle details entered and theres also the box for comments. So you could type in the fact this car was not due for MOT and you wrongly entered it's reg and chassis number. Bound to go on record.
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Post by Dave Hill on Dec 17, 2005 18:43:09 GMT
What happens if.
You log on at 4:45pm to do a test & you finish work at 5:00pm. Is it permissible to continue the test & log on with the results at 9:15am the following day?
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Post by stoker on Dec 17, 2005 20:12:52 GMT
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Post by Dave Hill on Dec 17, 2005 20:48:19 GMT
Actualy there is an opening for a mechanic/Tester if anyone in the NW Leicestershire area is interested.
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Post by Tom on Dec 17, 2005 23:01:00 GMT
What happens if. You log on at 4:45pm to do a test & you finish work at 5:00pm. Is it permissible to continue the test & log on with the results at 9:15am the following day? Dave Hill I don't think that you would be allowed to do it. Once a test has started, it must either be done to completion, abandoned or aborted. If you did do it, then the logged test time would be well over 16 hours!
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Post by graham on Dec 17, 2005 23:12:34 GMT
Why should there be a problem? Car comes in at 4.30 nice and hot. At 4.45 you log on and do the emission test. Go home, come back in the morning and do the rest. Would certainly increase your "Average" time.
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Post by Steven on Dec 17, 2005 23:23:08 GMT
What happens if. You log on at 4:45pm to do a test & you finish work at 5:00pm. Is it permissible to continue the test & log on with the results at 9:15am the following day? From The MOT Testing Guide B57. AEs must ensure that the MOT tests are carried out without avoidable distraction or interruption and strictly in accordance with the conditions of their authorisation
8. Once started, a test must be completed to the maximum extent safely possible
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Post by Dave Hill on Jan 4, 2006 18:58:39 GMT
My Tester called me into the MOT bay today because he found that an Escort Van that he had tested, had one vented & one solid brake disc on it. We looked & looked, but couldn't find a relevent section for failing it. How would you lot fail it?
Cheers
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Post by wingnut on Jan 4, 2006 20:16:17 GMT
If it meets the all the testing criteria's then i would pass and advise. If it had a non vented disc in place of the correct vented one which is wider when the pads wear down the pistons could possibly drop out.
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Post by Tom on Jan 4, 2006 23:57:14 GMT
Pass & advise is all you can do. As long as the brake performance readings are ok, and the pads, discs etc are in good condition, then we cannot fail it. Someone probably changed the suspension leg, complete with caliper, hub & disc I expect...
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Post by wingnut on Jan 5, 2006 11:16:05 GMT
Tom, now that may be pass and advise, however if say a Escort 1300 had the later XR3i leg, there may be a reason to fail on several points. Am i not correct.
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Post by Dave Hill on Jan 5, 2006 19:48:52 GMT
Thanks everyone.
I must admit that we failed it. We were a little imaginative with the reason, but as I have seen the results of this twice before when a pad has been spat out nearly causing an accident, then I cant justify a pass. Its surprising how easily they come out & the pads dont have to be about shagged before it happens.
If this motor was checked in a road side Ministry style check then I think it most certainly would have been pulled out of service.
I shall await a bollocking from the powers that be, but so be it.
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Post by motdave on Jan 5, 2006 21:12:09 GMT
Tom, now that may be pass and advise, however if say a Escort 1300 had the later XR3i leg, there may be a reason to fail on several points. Am i not correct. What failure reasons would exist if the later leg was fitted ?
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Post by wingnut on Jan 5, 2006 22:55:16 GMT
It may be that the later leg with the say vented disc and caliper would fail on the imbalance on the r.b.t due to the possible larger caliper piston. Other possibles are the lower vehicle trim height [headlight focus] and one other item,i will check on tomorrow. Cripes time for the late shift.
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Post by Dave Hill on Jan 10, 2006 22:13:04 GMT
How do we get a copy of the original VT30 (Failure) certificate. I have looked in the duplicate & replacements section on the VTS device & cant find a way. Any ideas?
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Post by Rob on Jan 10, 2006 22:20:53 GMT
How do we get a copy of the original VT30 (Failure) certificate. I have looked in the duplicate & replacements section on the VTS device & cant find a way. Any ideas? Dave Hill It's a bit vague, but can't you enter the details (test number) of the original test from the VT40 and ask to print a duplicate. I'm sure I've done it before when a customer lost his VT30 and wasn't sure what he had to repair.
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Post by Admin on Jan 10, 2006 22:38:15 GMT
How do we get a copy of the original VT30 (Failure) certificate. I have looked in the duplicate & replacements section on the VTS device & cant find a way. Any ideas? Dave Hill Try this: Other functions ---> Duplicate, Exchange and Replacement Documents ---------> Issue Duplicate Test Documents
Issue Duplicate of Test Documents - Enter Details Enter Registration Mark: <type reg in here> Duplicate Required: FAIL
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